====== [hemmerling] The Desktop Computer "Lenovo ThinkCentre 58p" ====== Related pages: *[[computer.html|Computer / PC Hardware - PC Technical Support]]. ===== Hardware ===== ==== The Computer ==== *I got the M58p model "6209DA5", BIOS date (MM/DD/YY) 10/17/11. *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/en/products/Desktops-and-all-in-ones/ThinkCentre-M-Series-desktops/ThinkCentre-M58p/6209|Lenovo Support "M58p Desktop (ThinkCentre). Machine Type: **6209**"]]. *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/de/documents/pd001803|Lenovo Support "Ausführliche technische Daten – ThinkCentre M58 (Typ 6239, 6302, 7244, 7355, 7373, 7628, 7639, 9960) / M58p (Typ 6138, **6209**, 7188, 7347, 7358, 7484, 7635, 9965)"]]. *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/de/products/desktops-and-all-in-ones/thinkcentre-m-series-desktops/thinkcentre-m58|Lenovo Support "M58p Desktop (ThinkCentre)"]]. *[[http://ark.intel.com/products/36527/Intel-82Q45-Graphics-and-Memory-Controller-Hub|Intel ARK "Intel Q45 Express Chipset (Intel 82Q45 Graphics and Memory Controller Hub)"]]. *[[http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_GM45|ThinkWiki "Intel GM45"]] - "Up to 8GB addressable memory". *[[http://www.manualslib.com/products/Lenovo-Thinkcentre-M58p-2803617.html|Manuals Lib "Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p Manuals"]]. *[[http://psref.lenovo.com/|Lenovo "Product Specifications Reference (PSREF)"]]. ==== The CPU ==== *[[http://ark.intel.com/products/33910/Intel-Core2-Duo-Processor-E8400-6M-Cache-3_00-GHz-1333-MHz-FSB|Intel ARK "Intel Core 2 Duo Processor E8400 (6M Cache, 3.00 GHz, 1333 MHz FSB)"]]. *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core|EN.Wikipedia "Intel Core"]], [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core|DE.Wikipedia "Intel Core"]]. *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2|EN.Wikipedia "Intel Core 2"]], [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_2|DE.Wikipedia "Intel Core 2"]]. *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_Core_%28microarchitecture%29|EN.Wikipedia "Intel Core (microarchitecture)"]], [[https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel-Core-Mikroarchitektur|DE.Wikipedia "Intel-Core-Mikroarchitektur"]]. ==== The Graphics Card ==== === Interfaces === == VGA == == Display Port == *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort|EN.Wikipedia "DisplayPort"]], [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/DisplayPort|DE.Wikipedia "DisplayPort"]]. == DisplayPort to VGA&DVI Conversion ( to convert Computer with VGA Monitor ) == *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_467_eKonverter_658_Displayport.html|DeLock "Adapter / Konverter > Displayport"]]. *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_658_Displayport_65439/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.1 Stecker > VGA Buchse + Audio + Power", #65439]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter-Monitor/DELOCK-65439/3/index.html?ARTICLE=180074|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 65439 :: DP 1.1 Stecker > VGA Buchse + Audio 21 cm"]], 24.95 EUR. *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_658_Displayport_65592/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.1 Stecker > VGA Buchse + Audio + Power weiß", #65592"]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/?ARTICLE=155298|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 65592 :: DisplayPort Stecker > VGA Buchse + Audio 21 cm"]], 15.95 EUR. == DisplayPort to VGA&DVI Conversion ( to convert Computer with HDMI monitor / TV set ) == *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_1299_Displayport-Stecker---HDMI-Buchse_62610/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.2 Stecker > HDMI Buchse 4K Passiv weiß", #62610"]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter-Monitor/DELOCK-62610/3/index.html?ARTICLE=153587|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 62610 :: DisplayPort 1.2 Stecker>HDMI Buchse weiß"]]. *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_1309_Displayport-1-2_62609/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.2 Stecker > HDMI Buchse 4K Passiv schwarz", #62609]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter-Monitor/DELOCK-62609/3/index.html?ARTICLE=153588|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 62609 :: DisplayPort 1.2 Stecker>HDMI Buchse schw."]]. *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_1309_Displayport-1-2_62608/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.2 Stecker > HDMI Buchse 4K Aktiv weiß", #62608]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter-Monitor/DELOCK-62608/3/index.html?ARTICLE=153579|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 62608 :: DisplayPort 1.2 Stecker>HDMI Buchse weiß"]]. *[[http://www.delock.de/produkte/F_1309_Displayport-1-2_62607/merkmale.html|DeLock "Delock Adapter Displayport 1.2 Stecker > HDMI Buchse 4K Aktiv schwarz", #62607]], [[http://www.reichelt.de/Adapter-Monitor/DELOCK-62607/3/index.html?ARTICLE=153580|reichelt elektronik GmbH & Co. KG "DELOCK 62607 :: DisplayPort 1.2 Stecker > HDMI Buchse schw."]]. === The Graphics Card "Intel GMA 4500MHD" === *[[http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Intel_GMA_4500MHD|ThinkWiki "Intel GMA 4500MHD"]]. *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA|EN.Wikipedia "Intel GMA"]], [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA|DE.Wikipedia "Intel GMA"]]. === Q45 Chipset === *[[http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/graphics-drivers/legacy-graphics/graphics-drivers-for-intel-q45-express-chipset.html|Intel "Graphics Drivers for Intel Q45 Express Chipset"]]. ==== RAM ==== *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/en/documents/pd010161|Lenovo Support "Memory Compatibility - Desktops"]] - "PC3-8500 DDR3-1066 UDIMM" is the memory in my "Lenovo M58p". *[[http://www.tomshardware.co.uk/forum/288431-30-what-ddr3-1066-8500|Tom's Hardware "What does 'DDR3 1066 (PC3 8500)' mean"]]. *[[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00DBAEZVQ/hemmerling-21|Amazon.com "4GB (1x4GB Memory RAM 4 Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p Desktop Series DDR3-10600 by CMS (A70)"]]. ==== DVD Drive ==== *The SATA DVD-RW drive "P1-Optiarc DVD RW AD-7250H". *[[http://www.sony-optiarc.us/support/downloads/dvdrwseries.html|Sony "Latest downloads for Sony Optiarc DVD RW Series"]] - "AD-7260S (S-ATA)". *[[http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B01AW4UM6U/hemmerling-21|Amazon.com "Sony AD-7250H DVD±RW Dual Layer SATA Black 5.25'' Optical Drive"]]. ===== Resources ===== ==== Infos about similar Computers ==== *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/en/documents/pd000966|Lenovo Support "System board diagram - ThinkCentre M55 (type 6488, 8010, 8792, 8796, 8800, 8804, 8808, 8813) / M55p (type 6488, 8792, 8796, 8800, 8804, 8808, 8813)"]]. *[[http://support.lenovo.com/de/en/documents/migr-68597|Lenovo Support "System board diagram - ThinkCentre M57 (type 6010, 6069, 6075, 6081, 6086, 9174) / ThinkCentre M57p (type 9013, 9019, 9088, 9160, 9164, 9194)"]]. ==== Floppy Disk acess & Booting by Floppy Disk ==== *If the Lenovo M58p system is error-free, you may boot from Floppy Disk. *In AHCI mode, by BIOS settings "Devices / ATA Drives Setup. Enhanced AHCI: WinXP-SP1+IAA driver supports AHCI mode" = "[Enabled]", the BIOS might generate error messages during BIOS power-on self-test ( POST ), with some PCI / PCIe storage controllers ( SATA, ATA / SCSI, Firewire ) are installed. *By that, the Lenov boots by CDROM/DVD or harddisk, by bypassing the Floppy Disk. *However, the computer boots the operating system ( Windows, Linux ) with proper drivers for IDE and SATA and proper access to the drives ERROR slot 03I/PnP Error! Adapter ROM Checksum Error - PCI Mass Storage Controller in Bus:11, Device:01, Function:00 Press for Setup, to resume * Error Boot Sequence will be taken if no selection is made ==== IDE ==== *Even if you supply an 100% compatible IDE controller for ATA drives, it is not recognized by the Lenovo BIOS. By this, you can´t at least boot from such devices by the Lenovo BIOS. Maybe you may boot by a special controller ROM ( which displays a message at boot time and allows IDE controller and IDE device configuration ). ==== Lenovio BIOS Setup Utility ==== *If you enable "Temporary relocation OPROM", Win10 will boot up to the login screen. You may even move the mouse. But if you enter any character by keyboard, the system hangs. Therefore: *"Advanced / Temporary relocation OPROM. Temporary shadow OPROM into conventional memory. But it was risky. If the system hangs during boot, please restart the system and come here to change the setting" = "[Disabled]". ==== Printer Interface ( LPT1 ) ==== === Printer Interface Cable === *With my M58p, there is a parallel port interface on the motherboard, but no cable with 25-pin interface connector was supplied. *I sourced the missing parallel port with proper cable, from an old 486-ISA Multi-IO card ( 2x serial, parallel, game )... *The red cable within the flat ribbon cable is at the "L" of the on-board printed "LPT1". *No hardware modification ( i.e. no 1K resistor ect. ) was necessary. === Printer Detection & Printer Port Setup === *It was just necessary to activate the parallel printer port in the Lenovo BIOS. *The printer setup is just visible in the Lenovo BIOS, and then later the printer port is just detected by the operating system ( e.g. Windows, Linux, MSDOS ), if a printer or parallel-port flatbed scanner is connected to this port, at boot time of the M58p. === Resources === *[[http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/M58-LPT-Question/td-p/199322|Lenovo Forums "M58 LPT Question"]]. ==== SATA ==== *My "Lenovo ThinkCentre 58p" motherboards have 4 SATA interfaces ( SATA1, SATA2, SATA3, SATA4 ), but just the interfaces of SATA1 and SATA2 are active :-(. *I assume that SATA3 and SATA4 are for use in a RAID array only. By the BIOS setting "Devices / ATA Drives Setup / Serial ATA / SATA RAID Enable", this computer supports RAID. *[[http://www.thinkpad-forum.de/threads/192633-ThinkCentre-M58p-zweite-HDD-verbauen|ThinkPad-Forum "ThinkCentre M58p zweite HDD verbauen"]]. *[[http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/Raid-1-Setup-With-Migration-New-M58-7373-CTO-Vista-Business-32/td-p/84887|Lenovo Forum "Raid 1 Setup With Migration (New M58 7373-CTO) Vista Business 32"]]. *"I can set the BIOS to RAID and then reboot and get into the Intel Matrix Storage Manager (ROM) by CTL-I, but ALL of the info at Intel.com indicates to do a migration and preserve your data that you need to use the Intel Matrix Storage Manger software once booted into Windows". *"Once I set the BIOS to enable RAID, the boot fails, so I can't get to windows to run the migration". *My computer has no eSATA interface at the backside, some other similar models indeed have such. *AHCI. *BIOS setting: *"Devices / ATA Drives Setup. Enhanced AHCI: WinXP-SP1+IAA driver supports AHCI mode" = "[Enabled]" for Win8, Win10, Linux 2.6.19,... *"Intel Application Accelerator ( IAA )" / "Intel Matrix Storage Manager". *[[http://downloadcenter.intel.com/download/5831/SATA-RAID-Intel-Application-Accelerator|Intel "SATA RAID: Intel Application Accelerator"]] 3.5.0.2600 (EN) for W2k, WinXP 32-bit. *[[http://downloadcenter.intel.com/de/download/5831/SATA-RAID-Intel-Application-Accelerator|Intel "SATA-RAID: Intel Application-Accelerator"]] 3.5.0.2600 (DE) for W2k, WinXP 32-bit. *[[http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=wk_28910_1|HP Support Center "Intel Application Accelerator (IAA) SATA RAID Driver/Application"]] 4.5.1.6809 (EN), 64-bit. *[[http://www.majorgeeks.com/files/details/intel_application_accelerator_raid_edition.html|Major Geeks "Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition 5.5.0.1035"]] - "The files below contain the Intel Matrix Storage Manager, previously known as Intel Application Accelerator 4.x and Intel Application Accelerator RAID Edition 3.x". *[[http://forum.crucial.com/t5/Crucial-SSDs/Why-do-i-need-AHCI-with-a-SSD-Drive-Guide-Here-Crucial-AHCI-vs/td-p/57078|Crucial Community "Why do i need AHCI with a SSD Drive (Guide Here!) Crucial AHCI vs IDE"]]. *[[http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkCentre-A-E-M-S-Series/SATA-Controller-M58-7373/td-p/76559|Lenovo Forums "SATA Controller M58 7373"]]. *"One thing I found was that when you disable AHCI in the BIOS, it recognizes the HDD as an IDE drive after one reboot, not as an AHCI drive, and the IDE drive is excluded from the startup sequence in the BIOS". *"I did eventually realise that turning off AHCI makes the pc recognise the HDD as an IDE device not SATA and this isnt included in the boot sequence". *[[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface|EN.Wikipedia "Advanced Host Controller Interface"]], [[http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Host_Controller_Interface|DE.Wikipedia "Advanced Host Controller Interface"]]. *Intel Management Engine BIOS Extension (MEBx). *[[http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/boards-and-kits/desktop-boards/000005897.html|Intel "Intel Management Engine BIOS Extension Options and Settings for Intel Desktop Boards"]]. *[[http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-T400-T500-and-newer-T/Default-password-for-Intel-Management-Engine-BIOS-Extension-MEBx/ta-p/275176|Lenovo Forums "Default password for Intel Management Engine BIOS Extension (MEBx)"]] - To access Intel MEBX: -After the initial boot screen, the following message is displayed: Press to enter MEBx Setup. -Press Ctrl P. *"What is the default BIOS password for Intel Management Engine BIOS Extension (MEBx) ?" - "The default password for MEBx is admin". *The default password must be changed at first login :-(. ==== WinXP ==== *WinXP SP3 32-bit does't supply neither a suitable driver for the ATA emulation mode of SATA drives, nor does it have AHCI support for the M58p: *WinXP SP1 installs properly on the M58p, with AHCI disabled. *WinXP SP3 starts installation, with AHCI disabled. After the first successful step of installation of WinXP SP3 on a SATA harddisk from a SATA DVD drive, the reboot from SATA harddisk fails by the error message *In English Windows could not start because the following file is missing or corrupt: \system32\hal.dll Please re-install a copy of the above file. *In German Windows konnte nicht gestartet werden, da folgende Datei fehlt oder beschädigt ist: \system32\ntoskrnl.exe. Installieren Sie ein Exemplar der oben angegebenen Datei erneut. *[[http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/314477|Microsoft Support "Error message: 'Windows could not start because of a computer disk hardware configuration problem'"]]. *[[http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windows/en-US/7ad1d3bd-880c-47d6-8a97-ca9be8e9aa59/will-sata-drivers-be-integrated-in-xpsp3|Microsoft TechNet "Will sata drivers be integrated in xpsp3?"]]. *[[http://driverpacks.net/|DriverPacks.Net]] - "Each DriverPack is a package of drivers for a particular category of hardware. There are for example DriverPacks for Sound devices and for Graphics devices... They are intended to be used while creating a Windows 2000, XP, 2003, Vista or Windows 7 installation disc/image". *[[http://www.nliteos.com/|nLite]] - "A tool for pre-installation Windows configuration and component removal at your choice". ==== Win7 ==== *Win7 ( without SP1 ) 64-bit and 32-bit don´t supply a suitable AHCI driver for the M58p :-(. But Win7 installs properly on the M58p, with AHCI disabled. ==== Win8 and Win 10 ==== *Win8 and Win8.1 supply a suitable SATA driver for the M58p :-), on the distribution DVD. Win8 and Win8.1 install properly on the M58p, with AHCI enabled. *I didn´t yet test a Win10 on a bare M58p, due to missing installation image. The upgrade Win7Pro -> Win10 installs properly on the M58p, with AHCI enabled. ==== General ==== *[[http://www.thinkwiki.org/|ThinkWiki]]. *[[http://www.notebooksbilliger.de/sonderposten+vorfuehrware+gebrauchtware/gebrauchtware/pc+systeme/lenovo+thinkcentre+m58p+234274|Notebooksbilliger "Lenovo ThinkCentre M58p, Core2 Duo 2x 3,00GHz, 4GB RAM, 160GB HDD, Win7 Pro, DVD-Laufwerk"]] - "DDR3 SDRAM, Taktung PC3 10600 (1333 MHz), max. Erweiterung auf 8 GB". But “PC3-8500 DDR3-1066 UDIMM” is the memory in my "Lenovo M58p" :-( {{tag>computer "lenovo thinkcentre 58p" lenovo thinkcentre 58p "windows 7" "windows 7 pro" 7 windows win7 win7pro pro review "fan page" fan page }}